by men at top levels. low camera sweep away. >> i think bill has been ly top. >> promises of dinner. >> by the way, one of the guys who resigned his name is raymond maxwell. on his website he describes himself as, quote, a foreign service officer, yogurt maker -- >> aren't they all? >> the sad thing 1 he is probably innocent, right? we don't know. somebody has to fall on their sword, and apparently he has to fall on his. >> this is a big problem. why are they using swords? it is the 21st century. >> i am using a metaphor, bill.